Reactions to “P500 per Vote”
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Hi Tony, Well written/spoken.
Wish that NGO's or concerned individual will join Lozada in his sorties for the truth, not only for the truth but the whole truth but also to disseminate information about this scam (doling P500) and its hidden purpose.
This is what really ails the Filipinos as those not in the know are always taken for a ride in the name of help/aid. Thanks and more power.
Bert Celera, (by email), May 01, 2008
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Tony, This $130 million "bukol" of the aborted NBN-ZTE (PHP 5.4 billion) project, if given to Gawad Kalinga (GK), tranlates to 90,000 houses at PHP60,000 per house. If the PHP500 per vote per month is given to GK instead, then it could meet its vision of 700,000 houses in 7,000 communities in 7.7 years at PHP41.50 to $1(original target was in 7 years at PHP50 to $1.)
Bert Peronilla (an avid reader from
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Perry, A better alternative to help the country improve the economy and populace, incl. the image of the disgraced -- bayad-utang, and consuelo de bobo, THEN gracious EXIT. NOT EXTEND THE STAY !
Ben Oteyza, (by email), May 01, 2008
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Good thinking. If the Philippine government has an
office for cooperatives, your idea should be
implemented. I hope your article can move them to do
as you suggest.
Lourdes Ceballos, (by email), May 02, 2008
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Dear Tony: Obviously GMA & Co. will stop at nothing to perpetuate themselves in power.
Those families who are fortunate enough to receive this "manna from Malacanang" will of course feel indebted to the giver and, out of a sense of gratitude--"utang na loob"--routinely do what is expected of them.
But of course that doesn't solve the problem of widespread chronic poverty afflicting millions of Filipinos. It only creates a culture of dependency--which is probably the Machiavellian intent behind this scheme in the first place.
How right you are. The right thing to do would be not simply to give the poor fish, but to teach them how to catch fish.
But here's the rub. If the poor get to know how to catch fish, they may no longer be quite vulnerable to the Machiavellian schemes of the politico-economic elite to perpetuate themselves in power.
A Catch-22 situation, if I ever saw one! Sincerely,
Mariano Patalinjug, (by email),
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Re: P500 per vote
~ True! True! True! Slam dunk!
You wrote: This is a classic illustration of the truism that if you give fish to a starving person, he or she will be able to stave off starvation for one day. But the following day, that person will be starving again. If you were, however, to teach that person how to catch fish, he or she would not go hungry again.
~ That’s why Erap became and still is the champion of the poor. Though it works unfortunately but politicians are grooming the mass or poor Filipinos into bunch of lazy ones. P500 per month each but the population is still booming. Wala rin. It is NOT a fix! Nope! Nope! Nope! Also, the congressmen/women/governors/mayors/barrangay officials are salivating to get a hand of these pesoseseseses! It may turn out to be P100/person while the other P400 will be used in financing congressmen’s/women’s, governors’ and mayors’ mansions, plantations and beach vacation houses, etc.
You wrote: If I were president, I would not give handouts to the poorest of the poor. I would instead organize them into manufacturing and service cooperatives, to produce goods and services for which there is a real need and demand.
~ This is the nationalistic and correct way!!! This is it!!! Giving them fish nets to fish. The “5 billion” budget a year can do a lot for these 300,000 (or even more) poorest of the poor kababayans. But you see, most of the Filipinos are hooked up to watching Kapten Barbel and other magical movies, so they want to see the fish right away than knitting or making the fish nets. Lazy people want answers right away. They don’t want sacrifices to make the nets and find the fish. They want the fish to knock at their own doors while letting the fish say “Hello, I’m here! My boss told me to cook me pleaseeee! And guess what? My friends will visit you next month”. That’s the problem! Juan Tamads in the high-tech years! The government baby-sits them and it is designed to make them like pets!
Do me a favor, please do an article about reforestation hocus-pocus. It’s a concern too. Previous governments had programs for this but these so-called reforestation administrators (plus the politicians, etc) burned hectares of hectares of young trees. The main reason is, the maintenance budget of the plantation will be untouched and all the way to their personal bank accounts. These evil doers should be persecuted too!
Salamat!
LF, tatski007@yahoo.com, May 02, 2008
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Stupid as stupid gets. Whose idea is that? She's trying to buy the votes of 300,000 families and probably some more. She's desperate to stay in power. There are more than 3 million Filipino families living like rats, does she think doling out 500 per family will REALLY help them out. I believe a lot of those "poor" families are poor by choice because they are lazy.
Edgardo Dacpano, (by email),
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I agree with your P500 per vote article. Once the con-ass is convened, it will be like opening the floodgates of the San Roque dam that we will be deluged with all types of proposal. And most likely, when the water recedes in 2010, our people will be
clueless what hit them because, Gloria will still be our leader and there will be more SenaTONGS and Crocs a.k.a. Congressman lurking on whatever possession was left in our possession.
What's driving Sen. Pimentel to spearhead this proposal? I think he can't run anymore for
re-election, right? Why not plant kamote instead. But anyway, I think Sen. Pimentel should not be the person leading this charge. In my opinion, he is not that good and if I remember it right, even Pres. Aquino booted him out of the Dept. of Local Government. The reason he is still around is because he kept on playing the victim card in the dagdag-bawas incident.
I am for the revision of our Constitution. But it should be after 2010 in order to avoid suspicion and conflict of interest. And beside we have a good batch of presidentiables this coming 2010. Roxas is a trusted name as a public servant, and who will not
admire the success of Sen. Villar? Kabayan and Loren were both respected by the public. So let's give these batch a chance first.
And please say No to these political dole-out. Have a little self-esteem, people.
Sincerely,
John Dee, (by email), May 02, 2008
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Thanks, my friend. Bullseye!
Willie Villarama, (by email), May 02., 2008
(NOTE: Willie Villarama was chief-of-staff of then VP Gloria Arroyo. ACA)
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Is there hope for the
Marilyn Donato, (by email), May 02, 2008
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Hi Tony, Dole-out is never an ideal solution. You're right in labeling it as a vote-buying strategy.
Such a crazy scheme will only result in encouraging laziness among the predominantly lazy male population in depressed areas. What the government could have done was to allot some budget for a solid livelihood program to empower the poor and teach them "how to fish". Only rich countries can institute a welfare program for its constituents.
We are a third-world country and as it is, we are mired in debt. I can already see the confusion that will ensue from this, just in the initial stage of determining who are the rightful recipients. Best,
Yett Montalvan, (by email), May 02, 2008
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Tony, in my town in
P500 is paid to supporters who promise to vote for this benefactor/malefactor and
P500 is paid to supporters of the opponent -- for a purple ink thumb and fingers--
JUST not to vote against this candidate.
We thought that was a good day's income. Arroyo's is better -- recurring monthly P500 not only for the registered voters but also members of the household? How wonderful can it get?
Aurora Riel, (by email),
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Hi Tony: Brilliant!! Your clear articulated analysis is par excellence. And the alternative is most sensible. You have outsmarted the scoundrels, corrupt and cheaters in Malacaniang. Carry on, Tony, with your good journalistic work. We are listening.
Martin Celemin, (by email),
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You have raised many valid concerns against this dole-out program of Mrs. Arroyo. However, among the positive thinkers, this program will not only effectively bring the government to the poorest people but will also stimulate commerce and productivity. For as long as government will not be printing new money to cause run-away inflation, the program will increase the purchasing power and the goodwill of the poorest. But before government should launch this program, it should see to it that there are enough funds for the basic needs of the greater number of people and funds to increase food production, and fight crime, smuggling and graft and corruption.
Government has already wasted too much on wrong priorities, wastes and fraud. Government should also institute safeguards in order to maximize the benefits from this program. For example, instead of cash , food stamps and in kind like scholarships, free books, medicines, seeds and fertilizers and the like should be given to the poorest. Otherwise, there is the big risk that these monthly pensions will not be spent wisely.
Reggie Gazmen, (by email), May 02, 2008
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Dear Mr Abaya, P5b a year in dole-outs is a lot of tax money down the drain, even in a country that is mired in a culture of mendicancy. To think that a private-sector initiative like Gawad Kalinga enjoys overwhelming success using probably a lot less funding. What is keeping the Arroyo administration from coming up with a counterpart program?
Such tandem programs, running in parallel, offer some benefits. For one, it gives the public an opportunity to discern, by way of comparison, why a particular project and its proponents are not performing the way they should. All the best,
Willy Calinawan, (by email),
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Antonio Abaya: I agree with your article as it pertains to the negative ramifications of continually doling out money to the poor, instead of preparing them for self-sufficiency.
Bob Awana, (by email),
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You are right, Mr. Abaya - giving dole outs would only encourage the poor to be poorer......more children....more mouths to feed.....more medicines to give out......more budget to the drain.........While the middle class who is shouldering a big percent of the taxes paid to the Govt., they receive less in terms of benefits from the SSS and GSIS?
This is like legalizing or formalizing poorship, beggarship....something that FM mastered during his time.....illegal settlers spread out like mushrooms....then he would court them for their votes.....in exchange for a few kilos of rice and other sorts of things....promising them lands.....work....etc........but when it was time for development.....their shanties would be demolished.....who was brave enough to go against the strongman at that time?
Giving free hospitalization, childbirth, and other medicines only makes more poor poorer.....imagine giving birth for free......giving education without the parents having to shoulder a single centavo for their books, matriculation, etc......but they have enough money for their loads....their tayas in lotto or bingos, their lipsticks and makeup?!!! And many of these receiving free education are not studying at all. They would rather load their cellphones instead of buying the food they were supposed to buy at school? Then they will say they are the poorest among the poor???
Just as Jesus said....."Teach men to fish, but don't give them any".
In the streets, we are often pestered by beggars knocking off our car windows....it is actually illegal to give to beggars on the streets.....but who gets caught? This guys are the cause of traffic and usually accidents on the street....but sometimes....when I see that the person is really disabled like lame or blind......
Rafael Alcuaz, (by email), May 02, 2008
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Dear Tony, Giving alms to the poor and the needy maybe good in the eyes of God but to me it is a bandage approach to a monumental problem and fails in all counts to resolve social issues. .
A case in point is the long standing welfare system in
Recent findings show many individuals in the system are single, unmarried women who have not worked for decades and instead gave birth to more children for the money. Recently, a new law was passed by congress insisting these individuals must undergo training to be employed. Otherwise, after a certain period without an attempt to be trained or employed the welfare subsidy will be discontinued completely.
The welfare system and food stamps giveaways in this country have created massive problems, abuse and corruption. When it started the basic premise was noble but bureaucratic red tapes and people running these programs saw opportunities to cheat and steal and line their pockets. Who would have thought recipients of food stamps would barter them for drugs? Unless good control is enforced irregularities will occur. And taxpayers hard earned monies go wasted.
It has been proven by psychologists that handout monies without efforts from recipients
are never appreciated. Your idea to approach this handouts be earned through production is a plausible one. In that way, the poor receives training for future employment.
Oscar Apostol, (by email),
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I am not anti US. I am a Filipino, yes, am a
Grace, hugsandkisses_mn@yahoo.com, May 03, 2008
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Dear Tony: In your expression "Gloria in excelsis Dado", who is Dado? Pray tell us.
I wonder if you intended to say "Diablo" instead of Dado, with apologies to the king of the underworld.
Amado Cabaero, (by email),
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Good point, Tony. Even if this project is " good," my question is, why only now?
We have so many poor communities and they have been poor for the
longest time and why give the monetary subsidy only now?
If their reason is the rice problem, I won’t buy it because the government
mismo says that we have no rice shortage. Its a PRICE shortage.
Is the government competing with Erap's gimmick of giving away rice to poor
Pinoys? Using tax money for political motives is really damaging this
government's image.
Problem is, superficial and band aid solutions ang binibigay ng
gobyerno sa atin eh. One immediate step for me is to import rice muna under NFA, pero NGO ang magbababantay.
Long term pa rin talaga solusyon is how to control the population growth.
Sa akin, this issue is being used just to side track the ZTE anomaly.
Mike Delgado, (by email), May 03, 2008
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Dear Tony, If I were the president and I have the money to spare, I’d rather:
1. Give just once a one-year budget for a family. Somehow, a percentage of them might embark into livelihood projects that they know of like store on kariton, shoe repair, etc…
2. Or advance to would-be OFW’s, pay-later-plan, so they could immediately work abroad. It is expensive to process papers; or
3. Organize open-field learning for carpentry, masonry, brick-making… TESDA is too bureaucratic, pulos pa-pogi points lang.
Rue Ramas, (by email), May 04, 2008
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Dear Mr. Abaya: I am forwarding to you a reaction of a friend to whom I forwarded your article entitled "P500 per Vote". His name is June Lim and may be reached at nitefairy1111@yahoo.com.
Chito Sequera, (by email), May 04, 2008
Chito,
While I quite agree that social dole-outs breeds further dire consequences as indolence and dependence, I believe administrations since the last century had been equally guilty of such palliative solutions that only institutionalized and strenghtened our culture of mendicancy through the ages.
All of these measures are meant to keep the poor poorer, for if it truly works, we could have had eradicated poverty even before our time.
This is further aggravated by the church's policy against birth control on the guise of being pro-life or even pro-poor. Look at its dire consequences: mass mass population growth equals, if not doubles, mass poverty!
With the cash rich churches and their tax exemptions to booth, what do they really have to offer in terms of addressing or alleviating mass poverty ? Have they taken any positive action towards addressing and totally eradicating the miseries of the people. Are they not into variuous dole-out schemes too? Have they thought of any game plan to increase rice and food production ?
(The next six paragraphs are diatribes against the Roman Catholic Church, which we can skip since they are off-topic. BTW, I am NOT a Roman Catholic. ACA)
The problem with Abaya is the stereo-typed character of our tri-media. They shoot from their waist without first drawing their guns off their holsters. For good measure, they hit their legs instead.
(The problem with Lim is that he wants to shoot but he does not even have a gun. ACA)
That Ahonbayan plan of the government has yet to come-out with its implementing rules and guidelines. But our bloody press got wind of it and concluded that it is another political ploy of Malacanang. That's how Abaya thinks as a matter of bad habit.
(The name of this scheme is Ahon Pamilyang Pilipino, not Ahonbayan.ACA)
During the term of the late Diosdado Macapagal, he had put in place what was then called the EEA or Emergency Employment Agency headed by no less than Eleuterio Adevoso, a war-decorated hero of that guerilla movement against the Japanese Imperial government in the
What has EEA achieved ? Initiall feeder roads to open and connect remote municipalites to major highways, waterways and cities. These feeder roads have evolved into provincial and municpal hi-ways that we now have all over the country. They are now first-class roadways after succeeding administrations followed thru the completion of these road networks.
I want to conjecture that this AhonBayan is patterned after Pres. Diosdado Macapagal's carefully thought mass employment that made possible a workforce to construct road networks to link remote towns and cities for most parts of the country in order to encourage the flow of commerce and promote economic growth. I believe GMA also had this in mind after initial public discussions on Ahonbayan's proposed implementing rules and guidelines..
THE BENEFICIARIES OF AHONBAYAN SHALL BE MADE TO WORK AND BE GIVEN RESPONSIBLITIES FOR THE NEEDS OF THEIR COMMUNITY AND NOT JUST MERE DOLE-OUTS !
(How can APP be patterned after the EEA? The EEA gave daily wages for daily work. The APP proposes cash hand-outs of P500 to P1,400 A MONTH for doing nothing. It is way below the minimum wage, which is P256 a day or about P6,090 plus COLA for a 27-day work-month. Why doesn’t Lim set a shining example by volunteering to clean esteros eight hours a day, 27 days a month, for P500 (if he’s single) to P1,400 (if he has three or more children) A MONTH. ACA)
If these cause-oriented groups can claim they have the numbers, why can't they instead use their numbers to plant trees, clean the streets, clear polluted and clogged waterways or make themselves productive citizens to protect and preserve not only the environment but ensure socio-economic-political stability as well.
Do I hear a resounding AMEN from the Church, Civil Society groups of lost causes, Politcos and Tri-Media ?
(Do I hear a resounding AMEN from June Lim? ACA)
If GMA is not the solution, definitely she is not the problem but we, ourselves, who had that bloody indiscretion of putting her there with the support of the Church, Civil, Political groups and Tri-Media as well. Now they are telling us that they made another holy mistake !
Next time we attempt at hitting our heads with another hammer, let's make sure that the next hammer is bigger as we hit our heads harder so that no one gets away at the expense of this nation !
(Never mind the hammer. Just clean esteros eight hours a day, for 27 days/per month, for P500 to P1,400 a month. ACA)
AhonBayan is something for something at P500 per ! (Month, not per day. ACA) What's wrong with that ? What all the others need best to to do is to immeditely shut up or put up with their more brilliant ideas and opinions! They sicken me to the bones !
June Lim
(If you do not sign up tomorrow for estero cleaning, at P500 to P1,400 a month, then you should immediately shut up because you will sicken many people to the bones. ACA)
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Dear Mr. Abaya, I choosed not to respond to many of your allegations against the Arroyo Adminstration's Plans and Program. When I started to be a Political activist during the 70's we were taught to uplift economic and political consciousness of the masses for the greater good. Presenting the socio- political,economic and cultural (SPEC) conditions of the
Much of our effort in elevating the economic conditions of the our poorest of the poor had not been actually in vain - they were used to it. They multiplied in numbers covered a larger area, and now almost every town, and cities all over the country. A few of them who were very enterprising, and was able to pursue studies got rich. Some are operating a mini- grocery or a small store, landladies renting rooms, operting a videoke, or video carrera, mini restaurants, rice dealer, kinder schools, OFWs name it these very enterprising "urban poor before" are even drug pusher.
What I am trying to say, is that, with or without government, people change. They adapt to every situtation, let say, bad or good government, rising prices of prime commodities, cost of transportation, power, education, etc.. etc.. etc..and they are happy. In reality, the poorest of the poor maybe are much happpier than you and
Now if the Arroyo Administration gives them Financial support by seeing to it that their children reach schools everyday, that is a welcome development. We should not lament specially the money does not directly comes from our own pocket. It was sourced from some Philathropic hands of Corporation as part of their Corporaate Social Responsibility. It is undisputable what Education could bring to elevate the economic conditions of the poor.
maybe what they need are positive orientations to make the Plans and Programs of government more meangful and fruitfull.
With regards to the move of the Senate in making moves towards Charter Change, this is what I have told you after ERAP was been released and granted full freedom. Senators feared they will not have a chance wining over ERAP's bid to return as President if ever Presidential system was still the form of our government by 2010. So the need to rush for a Cha-cha. If we go Federal and Parliamentary, Senators will have the chance to compete GMA for Prime Ministership position.
I don't know why Filipinos who are more talented that their neignbors are afraid of change. Maybe oppositors ride in comfort and gets more favors with the present situation. If not they must be very crazy not to sponsor change! Are they afraid of their own shadows?
Rodolfo Cada, (by email), May 04, 2008
(As I wrote in the article “P500 per Vote”, if I were president, instead of giving dole-outs [P500 to P1,400 a month] to the poorest of the poor, I would organize them into manufacturing and service co-operatives to produce goods and services for which there is a real need and demand. Thus they would receive monthly incomes several times bigger than the P500-to-P1,400 a month promised by APP, which is preferred by the Arroyo government as it is a convenient cover for buying signatures in the ChaCha referendum in 2009, and for buying votes in the 2010 parliamentary elections. And using taxpayers money for it. ACA)
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The P500 aid for education was copied from
Wilhelmina Orozco, (by email), May 04, 2008
(I am aware that this was copied from
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Dear Tony, The decision to give PhP500 to the poorest people is not a bad idea but it promotes dependency. It is also seen as a political gimmick. If your estimate of PhP5.0 million + is correct to run the program, (that is its official budget, not my estimate. ACA) the temptation of misuse is always present. This amount would have a tremendous multiplier effect if it is directed towards community based businesses instead of outright dole-outs which are inflationary in nature.
Dr, Nestor P. Baylan, (by email),
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(Copy furnished of email sent to six addressees)
Are you aware of this ill-conceived plan? Do other Filipinos who are well-fed, have the economic resources, power and brains ever protest? Offer other solutions? Care at all?
Cato Marschner, (by email),
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NOTE. Because of limited space, this post may be truncated in acabaya.blogspot.com. It appears or will appear complete in www.tapatt.org.
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(Forwarded to Tapatt by Rachel Hermosura)
MANILA, Philippines -- The P5 billion allocation of the Arroyo administration for the monthly allowances of families living below the poverty line only creates a "palaasa" (very dependent) culture, a senator said as he pushed for programs that would address irrigation and employment problems.
"That's what I don't like, creating a 'palaasa' culture. We have to really come up with progressive creativity so that we can allow people…to be able to have their dignity," Senator Richard Gordon told reporters Monday.
"The idea is productivity in rice and productivity in jobs. I wouldn't mind if the government put[s] P5 billion to build roads or to build irrigation," Gordon said, noting that this will prevent a "hand-out" culture.
The government should be clear and should publish qualifications of families who will receive the monthly stipend, he said.
Although Gordon said he "understood where the President was coming from" and that the President "did not want any more heart burn from the people na galit na galit dahil nahihirapan na sila [who are angry because they are hard-pressed], you cannot have P5 billion all the time."
The senator suggested that using the allocation to buy rice and other rice substitutes like kamote [sweet potato], corn, bananas, and cassava would go a long way.
Gordon said he and Cebu Governor Gwen Garcia were planning to launch a program advocating the use of rice substitutes. ***** From the Philippine Daily Inquirer.
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More Reactions to “Federal Fol-de-Rol” (April 28, 2008)
Tony, I had a running argument with Senator Pimental a few years ago over
the Internet. He insisted that the
we had the trumpets blow.
What I DO remember, though, is an adamant Senator Pimentel insisting that we were allowed to march. WE WERE NOT. And also, pictures speak much louder than words, so at least over the Internet, he could not change history. I am sure that if you ask him today, and he will still say that yes, we did the march. I hail from
Gerry Kaimo, (by email), May 06, 2008
Frustrated marcher
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All these equate to the food on the table.
Call to action, not rhetoric, is what we need.
Marilyn, kmtlc2000@aol.com,
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Response to Joemax Sensio Kiamco
Dear Tony, I can't believe the short sighted issues Kiamco raised. Thank you for your responses. I wish to add my input.
It is difficult enough to deal with the multitude of local, national and global problems the
Where was he when independence was declared and Tagalog was adopted as national language? Does he ever believe in unifying the nation with the positive effect of governance, business, policies and the peoples' quality of life ?
Why was there no mention of Spanish and English languages being used? Was this an intentional overlook?
What does he think would happen if people follow his brand of regional mindset? Such an approach is a fall back to the Spaniards colonial management. When
It was used by